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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anon

  HP extended its 8x00 series a few times, as Itanium couldn&#039;t quite do what it was being marketed to do.  Eventually ... years later ... 8x00 died more due to lack of targeting it as a priority platform by ISVs, rather than by CPU-icide on the part of Itanium.

  Itanium conquered Forrest Basket at SGI.  Alien and Beast would have been formidable chips well into the first half of this millenium had they not been killed.  MIPS died in large part to a massive exodus after critical projects were killed.  R12k and R14k were for the most part, die shrinks and respins of R10k.  Very little new capability.  The compiler is what won the day.

  I do remember being in meetings where I asked management what our &quot;plan B&quot; was.  I got nothing but quizzical looks. Plan-B?  Who needs a plan B?   Itanium will sell millions according to some research firm.

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This is the bill of goods sold to SGI (and others).  End result, lots of projects canceled.  Good very competitive products axed.  Itanium &quot;won&quot;.  

For the vendors that had this battle wage internally, this was nothing but &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a phyrric victory&lt;/a&gt; for them.  The results of the commitment to Itanium were, in many ways, devastating to the ability of these groups to offer differentiated solutions.</description>
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<p>  HP extended its 8&#215;00 series a few times, as Itanium couldn&#8217;t quite do what it was being marketed to do.  Eventually &#8230; years later &#8230; 8&#215;00 died more due to lack of targeting it as a priority platform by ISVs, rather than by CPU-icide on the part of Itanium.</p>
<p>  Itanium conquered Forrest Basket at SGI.  Alien and Beast would have been formidable chips well into the first half of this millenium had they not been killed.  MIPS died in large part to a massive exodus after critical projects were killed.  R12k and R14k were for the most part, die shrinks and respins of R10k.  Very little new capability.  The compiler is what won the day.</p>
<p>  I do remember being in meetings where I asked management what our &#8220;plan B&#8221; was.  I got nothing but quizzical looks. Plan-B?  Who needs a plan B?   Itanium will sell millions according to some research firm.</p>
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<p>This is the bill of goods sold to SGI (and others).  End result, lots of projects canceled.  Good very competitive products axed.  Itanium &#8220;won&#8221;.  </p>
<p>For the vendors that had this battle wage internally, this was nothing but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory" rel="nofollow">a phyrric victory</a> for them.  The results of the commitment to Itanium were, in many ways, devastating to the ability of these groups to offer differentiated solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Itanium certainly conquered HP.  And obviously SGI&#039;s MIPS interest.  Held up a ceiling over SPARC for x86 to squish it from below.  Power&#039;s ubiquity in other markets kept it going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Itanium certainly conquered HP.  And obviously SGI&#8217;s MIPS interest.  Held up a ceiling over SPARC for x86 to squish it from below.  Power&#8217;s ubiquity in other markets kept it going&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stephen mulcahy</title>
		<link>http://scalability.org/?p=1613&#038;cpage=1#comment-29466</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen mulcahy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not forget the Alpha either - a lovely architecture at the time of it&#039;s death (disclaimer: I did work for DEC/Compaq/HP at the time). Intel is only implementing some of its features now (AMD have had some of them for a while, mostly because AFAIK at least of the Alpha guys were snapped up by AMD).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets not forget the Alpha either &#8211; a lovely architecture at the time of it&#8217;s death (disclaimer: I did work for DEC/Compaq/HP at the time). Intel is only implementing some of its features now (AMD have had some of them for a while, mostly because AFAIK at least of the Alpha guys were snapped up by AMD).</p>
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